Yesterday I wanted to make a pie for dinner to celebrate Pi day, and being the sort of geek I am, I thought I'd try out something medieval.
The Medieval Cookbook Search turned up a bunch of recipes for meat pies, and I picked out one that seemed pretty straightforward - Pyes of Pairis from A Noble Boke off Cookry.
It turned out pretty well, so I wrote it up and went to post it on the website, and that's when I realized I'd had it before. Well ... sort of.
I'd never made it before, but if I'd taken a few minutes to look at my own website I would have seen the link to Kristen Wright's version of the recipe. D'oh! This made me consider not posting it after all - I don't want to seem like I'm stepping on her recipes or anything.
However, there's something interesting to be seen from comparing her interpretation to mine. Even with such a simple recipe (cook meat, add eggs and spices, bake in pie), we ended up with substantially different results. What's more, I think that both interpretations are equally valid.
This is something I've come across many times while re-creating medieval cuisine. Because of the way the recipes are written, and because our cooking culture is so much different now from what it was then, there is a lot of uncertainty packed into even the shortest and most direct recipes.
In some ways it can be frustrating, but in other ways it makes it just that much more fun.
Tuesday, March 15, 2011
Similar, but Different
Monday, October 18, 2010
Apples, Quince, and Cooks
Some quick updates on assorted subjects:
A couple of weeks back I posted about apple pie recipes, where I'd picked out a few potential recipes to try. The one I settled on, Tartys In Applis, worked out pretty well. Grating the apples was really kind of strange, as was the addition of figs. Still it tasted good. better warm than cold in my opinion. I think a dollop of snowe on top would add some fat to make it even better.
I've posted here before about the quince tree I planted in my back yard. While it has flowered for the past two years and some fruits have formed, this is the first year that any have made it to harvest. I picked the two small quince from the tree last week, and last night I made them into marmalade. It's a small thing (the result is only a single pint) but it's still geeking me out. Hopefully there will be more next year.
Finally, the Middle Kingdom Cooks Collegium is this upcoming weekend in Chicago. There will be cooks from all over the midwest United States (and some from farther away) all gathered together to share their knowledge of medieval cooking. I'll be teaching two classes there - one on food safety and another that is sort of an overview on medieval cooking from a sort of holistic viewpoint. In spite of all that I still need to to to get ready for the event, I'm really looking forward to it.
Tuesday, October 5, 2010
American as Apple Pie
Somehow the month of September managed to zip past and I was too wrapped up in other things to post here.
At any rate, apples are now in season in my part of the United States, which means I was compelled to go to a nearby orchard and buy a large quantity. That in turn means I'm now looking around for new recipes to use up said apples.
By far, the favorite apple dish here in the US is apple pie (which ironically has a history that goes far back before the European colonization of the Americas). I therefore have a perfect opportunity to engage in some historic cooking at the same time as I partake in an annual apple overindulgence.
The question of course is which recipe to try? I've already made our family's traditional apple pie (apples, sugar, cinnamon, crumb crust on top), so I want to make something a bit different. That eliminates a number of medieval recipes, as a large number are essentially apples, sugar, cinnamon and ginger in a pie crust. A quick search through some of the medieval cookbooks comes up with the following contenders:
This one is essentially regular apple pie recipe, but with the top crust glazed during baking using sugar and rose water. Interesting, but not very exciting.
Tartes of Apples with covers. Mince your Apples very small, season them with Sugar, sinamon & ginger, and laye thereon a faire cover, and dresse your cover when it is halfe baked with Rosewater and Sugar. [A Book of Cookrye (England, 1591)]
Here from the same cookbook is a tart recipe where the apples are precooked in wine. That sounds more promising!
Tartes of Apples without covers. Boyle your Apples very tender in a little wine, or for lack of Wine Ale, and then strain them with Sugar, sinamon and ginger. Make a tart of it without a cover. [A Book of Cookrye (England, 1591)]
A much older recipe from Forme of Cury adds pears and dried fruits and saffron (that reminds me, I need to buy more saffron - a lot more). There's no sugar or honey listed, though I suppose it could be part of the "spices".
For To Make Tartys In Applis. Tak gode Applys and gode Spycis and Figys and reysons and Perys and wan they are wel ybrayed colourd wyth Safroun wel and do yt in a cofyn and do yt forth to bake wel. [Forme of Cury (England, 1390)]
The last three recipes are from the same German cookbook - they had a lot of apple recipes in there, with numerous apple pies and tarts.
This one calls for egg yolks, which might make it more custardy.
74 An apple tart. Peel the apples and take the cores cleanly out and chop them small, put two or three egg yolks with them and let butter melt in a pan and pour it on the apples and put cinnamon, sugar and ginger thereon and let it bake. Roast them first in butter before you chop them. [Das Kuchbuch der Sabina Welserin (Germany, 1553)]
This one precooks the apples and adds raisins.
79 An apple tart. Peel the apples cleanly and take out the cores, chop them small and fry them in fat, put raisins, sugar and cinnamon therein and let it bake. [Das Kuchbuch der Sabina Welserin (Germany, 1553)]
Lastly, this one grates the apples and adds cheese and eggs. My wife likes cheese in her apple pie, but I never could get used to it. Incidentally, this is the only medieval apple pie recipe I've found that calls for cheese.
177 To make an apple tart. Take apples, peel them and grate them with a grater, afterwards fry them in fat. Then put in it as much grated cheese as apples, some ground cloves, a little ginger and cinnamon, two eggs. Stir it together well. Then prepare the dough as for a flat cake, put a small piece of fat into it so that it does not rise, and from above and below, weak heat. Let it bake slowly. [Das Kuchbuch der Sabina Welserin (Germany, 1553)]
Looking at these options, I think I'll try out the one from Forme of Cury first. Then perhaps one of the German recipes.
Wednesday, October 22, 2008
Food Related Painting of the Week
Pieter Claesz, 1627
Wednesday, October 1, 2008
Food Related Painting of the Week
15th century
Wednesday, July 16, 2008
Pickled Meat Pies
To make fillets of beefe or clods instead of red Deare.
First take your Beefe, and Larde it very thicke, and then season it with pepper, and Salt, Sinamon and ginger, Cloues, and Mace good store, with a greate deale more quantitie of pepper and Salte, then you would a peece of Venison, and put it in couered Paste, and when it is baked, take vineger and suger, Sinamon and Ginger, and put in, and shake the Pastie, and stope it close, and let it stande almonst a fortnyght before you cut it vp.
To make a pie to keep long.
You must first perboile your flesh + press it, + when it is pressed, season it with pepper and salt whilest it is hot, then lard it, make your paste of rie flower, it must be very thick, or else it wil not holde, when it is seasoned + larded, lay it in your pie, then cast on it before you close it, a good deale of cloves and Mace beaten small, and lay upon that a good deale of Butter, and so close it up: but you must leave a hole in the top of the lid, + when it hath stood two houres in the Oven, you must fill it as full of vinigar as you can, and then stop the hole as close as you can with paste, and then set it in the Oven again: your Oven must bee verie hot at the first, and then your pies will keep a great while: the longer you keepe them the better wil they be: and when ye have taken them out of the oven, and that they be almost cold, you must shake them betweene your hands, and set them into the Oven, be well ware that one pie touch not another by more than ones hand bredth: Remember also to let them stand in the Oven after the Vinigar be in, two houres and more.
Sunday, March 2, 2008
Humbles of Venison



